Chrysler Sebrings Are Awful Right?

"LongbowMkII" (longbowmkii) 09/10/2015 at 13:51 • Filed to: None

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But $987 has to be NP territory. This dealership always has a lot of sub $1000 cars, I don’t know if they’re just trying to dump low value trades without the hassle of auction or something more nefarious.

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SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > LongbowMkII 09/10/2015 at 13:54

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CP. It’s still a Sebring. Not only are they awful in every way, but I seem to remember most of them having electrical gremlins that are hard to track down. I got my running AW11 for that price that I could have dailied forever if I didn’t turn it into racecar, so this is a major CP.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > LongbowMkII 09/10/2015 at 13:56

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if it’s a running, driving, functional car for under 1000, then it’s a NP.

If it’s puffing blue smoke out the back like crazy and rattling apart, then no it’s not NP.

mazda616 > LongbowMkII 09/10/2015 at 13:56

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My friend’s first car was a ‘98 Sebring LXi and it was the most reliable car his family ever had. It was basically a Mitsubishi, though. This one might be a good deal depending on what motor it has.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > LongbowMkII 09/10/2015 at 13:57

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sold as is .

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We guarantee your Powertrain for Life on all qualified pre-owned vehicles at no extra charge!

Uh.... I’m guessing this isn’t one of the qualified ones?

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > LongbowMkII 09/10/2015 at 13:57

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Would likely end in tears. Could have a leaking/failing trans, very likely needs motor mounts (which are a bitch and a half), and who knows what else.

Brian, The Life of > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 09/10/2015 at 13:59

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No way. It’s a sub-$1K convertible with airbags, for Pete’s sake. This is perfect as a teenage girl’s first car. As long as it checks out this is a steal.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > mazda616 09/10/2015 at 14:00

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Coupe and convertible are unrelated on these, and having encountered enough (even small doses) of the convertible ones to last me a lifetime...

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > mazda616 09/10/2015 at 14:01

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The V6 and chassis for this one were late 90s all-Chrysler designs. The 1998 was an earlier generation.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Brian, The Life of 09/10/2015 at 14:01

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Okay, so it has airbags and the top comes completely off. AW11 still pwns it.

mazda616 > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 09/10/2015 at 14:05

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Ah, I see. Yeah, his was a coupe.

LongbowMkII > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 09/10/2015 at 14:06

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probably not.

LongbowMkII > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 09/10/2015 at 14:07

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it does, but all the Aw11’s in my area are trashed or priced accordingly.

Ash78, voting early and often > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 09/10/2015 at 14:08

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Yeah, I’m thinking the dealer’s maintenance reserve alone on this thing is probably $987...

Brian, The Life of > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 09/10/2015 at 14:11

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Try finding a decent runner for that price, tho.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 09/10/2015 at 14:11

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Let’s put it this way: some friends of my family junked one that was still running and driving because the transmission was leaking from the *engine side* seal and having some mis-shift issues indicating it was planning to go. At that point, the seats had collapsed , the paint was dead, the front suspension was starting to get... questionable, electrics weren’t great, and it had funny smells. Despite having fought not long before to do the engine mounts (a hideous job, even with a lift), it was time to say, “no” to doing a trans job.

BigBlock440 > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 09/10/2015 at 14:24

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No, the convertibles were Chrysler built, basically the sedan with 2 less doors and a folding roof. The Mitsubishi built coupes were the versions notorious for the electrical gremlins.

BigBlock440 > LongbowMkII 09/10/2015 at 14:27

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As long as it runs and drives, yeah it’s NP.

Sweet Trav > LongbowMkII 09/10/2015 at 14:28

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IIRC those 2.7 V6's had wicked sludging problems.

Übel > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 09/10/2015 at 14:28

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Wait, are you talking about the Sebring or the girl?

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 09/10/2015 at 14:59

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well, yeah, I wouldn’t classify that as a running/driving/functional car

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 09/10/2015 at 15:02

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In your second category, sure, but still drivable for x miles. Not a grenade with missing spoon, more a stick of sweating dynamite. This one with a 2.7 probably counts as a time bomb even with no immediately apparent flaws.

BigBlock440 > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 09/10/2015 at 15:15

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Still, a sub $1k car that’ll get you another 10-20k miles is still way cheaper than a brand new car that will get you 200k. Using the miles/$ calculation based on purchase price, if the $1k Sebring gets you another 10k miles it’s 10 miles/$, the equivalent of buying a $20k car and driving it 200k miles.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > BigBlock440 09/10/2015 at 15:16

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True, but such a ten thousand miles it would be...

BigBlock440 > Sweet Trav 09/10/2015 at 15:19

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Supposedly fixed for MY 2004, I haven’t had any problems with mine in 100k *knocks on wood*. Since that one made it to 150k, I’m thinking it’s ok, otherwise it’d be on it’s 3rd engine by now. I’ve also got a friend with 160k on his 2.7 and his is a 2004, so I think it was actually fixed. But yeah, pre-2004 if you weren’t using synthetic or changing your oil way early, it wasn’t going to make it over 60k.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > BigBlock440 09/10/2015 at 15:25

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That’s what i’m thinking. only justification is purchase price.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Übel 09/10/2015 at 15:25

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Yes?

BigBlock440 > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 09/10/2015 at 15:27

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And you get a couple hundred bucks back when you drop it off at the junkyard.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Brian, The Life of 09/10/2015 at 15:27

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Already did.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > BigBlock440 09/10/2015 at 15:28

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It’s like a core charge! hahaha

BigBlock440 > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 09/10/2015 at 15:31

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Oh yes, what a 10,000 miles it will be

Sweet Trav > BigBlock440 09/10/2015 at 15:33

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Yeah, i couldnt remember my sister had one with the 3.5 and it was a piece.

shop-teacher > Brian, The Life of 09/10/2015 at 16:16

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I wouldn’t let my daughter drive it!

shop-teacher > LongbowMkII 09/10/2015 at 16:17

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I mean, in a way any running driving car for under a grand is a good deal ... but in another way you’re probably better of leaving that $987 in your pocket.

Brian, The Life of > shop-teacher 09/10/2015 at 16:18

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Why?

LongbowMkII > shop-teacher 09/10/2015 at 16:26

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that’s about how i feel about it. I wouldn’t pull the trigger considering I have too many cars as is, but I was just wondering if it was worth a consideration in different circumstances.

shop-teacher > Brian, The Life of 09/10/2015 at 16:43

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Because Sebring convertibles have all the structural integrity of wet cardboard. What good is that airbag, if the body deforms so badly the airbag misses you, or the cowl introduces itself to your forehead?

My neighbors are a retired couple that rent their basement out to college kids. One of those kids was a girl who drove an early 1st gen Focus, with giant holes in the rocker panels. As my wife and I walked past it one day, I told her, “There is no way in hell I would let my daughter drive this car. It’s going to fold up like a can of beer in an accident.”

I’m not the type of dad to buy my kid a new car, or any car for that matter. I will help them buy their first car, but they need to have at least their skin in the game, so to speak. That said, I’m damn sure not letting my daughters drive anything that is structurally unsound.

Brian, The Life of > shop-teacher 09/10/2015 at 18:18

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They rate “poor” for side impact but “acceptable” for everything else. I guess since my kids’ driving is fairly limited, very modern crash test ratings aren't that important to me. Heck, my son’s car is a 1955 Fairlane.

shop-teacher > Brian, The Life of 09/10/2015 at 19:23

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Fair enough. I road in a Sebring convertible once, and the body structure quivered so badly that I was terrified.